[outdated] Global League Poll (2014-07-13)

In an effort to be a bit more transparent about Global League changes and feedback, I've started a poll here on GL Maps in general.

To be clear here, the discussion here will not directly affect the Global League map list, nor will my decisions as the head of the Map Committee be solely determined by this thread.

What this is for is for me to know which maps to focus on for community discussion. Which maps do you like? Which maps do you hate? Which maps do you think are not suited for the Global League, and much more importantly, why?

I am very, very knowledgeable in both AWBW mapping as well as competitive play, and have been here for many years, but I will simultaneously try my best to respect the community and its collective knowledge and experience.

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Vote for any maps that you think do not deserve to be in the Global League, and post why you think this. I will then focus on explaining my reasoning on why they are there based on my knowledge and experience, and why I have put or kept them there. The vote will literally do nothing if you do not also post here explaining why you voted as you did, this is about discussion, not numbers. This is to open up a dialogue and hopefully increase our collective knowledge on Global League maps.

This is not a thread about handing Global League control to the community, I've seen that work out very badly for communities in the past, and that will never happen here.

The Map Committee will still control this process 100%, but I will use these threads to keep an open ear to the community's suggestions and ideas, and respond in as timely a manner as I can manage.

Poll for GL as of July 13, 2014
2014-07-13

1. Agitated
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=56121
   
2. All Roads Lead to Sol
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=58092
   
3. Aphotic Arena
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=52913
   
4. Apocalyptic
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=57041
   
5. Arcadepunk
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=60053
   
6. Bel'Shir Beach
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=58205
   
7. Beyond Eternity
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=50817
   
8. Bible Black
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=41629
   
9. Black Patch War
   http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=56664
   
10. Blood on my Hands
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=28759
    
11. Border Patrol
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=60802
    
12. Defiled Logic
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=57919
    
13. Highway To Hell
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=51447
    
14. Iconic
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=54880
    
15. Iskander
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=61226
    
16. Masked Fury
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=56661
    
17. nb4DS
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=34791
    
18. Off Guard
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=61077
    
19. Rend the Earth
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=59292
    
20. Shadows chase you endlessly
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=50841
    
21. Shangri-La
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=45557
    
22. String Theory
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=61222
    
23. Titans Rise GL
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=62324
    
24. Truth Is
    http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=57364
    

Definitely border patrol - the map is boring, hard to push with your forces(mostly because there's really nothing important to push for), and centers around highly coordinated/calculated infantry decisions on your flanks.

Even if you do win on your flanks, and get an extra city, or two; your opponent can still easily drag the game on for another 20-30 moves because it's not really worth going for the win: it's too risky, and complicated to make a push on that small choky map with hardly any resources to fight for, and it would just as likely leave your army destroyed as it would be for you to win when you do finally go for it.

Thank you for posting, Iordor. I will wait to see if and when other players post here before posting my thoughts on that particular map, but I thought you should know that I have read that post, I appreciate the thoughts, and now know that is a map I should focus my efforts on to help the community better enjoy AWBW.

If anyone else has any thoughts on the Global League maps in the meantime, go for it. That is the purpose of this thread, essentially somewhere between gathering data and a Q&A session on Global League maps. Recent events in other games I am involved with have helped to remind me that players appreciate a bit of transparency and communication, and plan on focusing on that more in the future.

Wow thats a long list for most players to go through. Maybe people wont have time to check over all these. Also most maps are quite nice but they have just been played a lot by now, at least by people who have been around a while like me. and i would prefer most of them to be changed or at least plenty of newer maps included. Also just saying which maps we dont want is a bit negative.

It might be more positive just to ask players to mention a couple of  maps that they would like to see continue on the list and say why they should be kept.
(i already mentioned "iskander" and "truth is" in the other thread about global league maps. Wondering if you saw that post? )


Also many active players may know of some new maps which are fun and play well and each player should suggest a couple of new maps for consideration.
(Of course any suggestions are going to need to be checked over for balance, recon rush problems and whatever.)

Yeah, of course, I understand Blanci. I just figured I'd start off simple for now and see where things go. Sorry for my significant absence as of late, I am participating in a tournament for an online card game currently, and it has unfortunately taken up much of my time, on top of my existing money issues, haha. Plus I'll be helping a relative with some medical issues from Wednesday to possibly Friday. But rest assured, I am reading everything I can find on these forums, but sometimes it might take a little bit of time for me to respond.

I'm honestly on the same boat as you right now Mori, though it's hearthstone for me. These games are addicting as crack, lol.

I've been moving up and down between Rank 12 and Rank 17 worldwide in IW, so I'm doing well enough to care about how this tournament plays out, unfortunately. Just beat two of the previous top 10 players yesterday and the day before, both 2-0 in a best of 3.

But yeah, I want to obviously focus on AWBW too, hence threads like these.

We need more map like Sahara, I can't think of any memorable league map beside Sahara right now. If anyone knows any other map that's like Sahara, please do tell me.

bbzee wrote:We need more map like Sahara, I can't think of any memorable league map beside Sahara right now. If anyone knows any other map that's like Sahara, please do tell me.

please give link....
the map Sahara doesnt appear in the lists given earlier in this thread
cheers

PS ? maybe this thread was out of date anyway and this discussion would be better in more recent global league map topics?

Blanci wrote:

bbzee wrote:We need more map like Sahara, I can't think of any memorable league map beside Sahara right now. If anyone knows any other map that's like Sahara, please do tell me.

please give link....
the map Sahara doesnt appear in the lists given earlier in this thread
cheers

PS ? maybe this thread was out of date anyway and this discussion would be better in more recent global league map topics?

Sahara
http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=30765

The map has been retired from global league, you have to wait another season in order it to be active again.

Yeah Sahara is an amazing map. It honestly felt horrible to cut a lot of the Global League maps that I did when I set up the Persistent/Rotation system, it just had to be done to keep the map lists fresh for the majority of AWBW players. Sahara will likely show up in Rotation Maps very soon, along with some other classics, for this month. If it's well liked, it definitely has a good chance of coming back next season.

As always, I appreciate and try my best to listen to all feedback from all players.

Also, there's a new thread available here on the Persistent Maps for this Season, please drop by there to give your feedback on the current Persistent Maps, and which maps you might want to see in the future.

https://isndev.forumotion.co.uk/t707-season-1-persistent-maps-poll-and-discussion-fri-10-oct-2014-tbd